Aparate Foto Digitale

[Moshu]

Daca te uiti putin mai sus, nu ALX a spus, ci io. De-aia am pus si poza. El a spus altceva: ca Microdrive e totuna cu CF II. Ca si compatibilitate, da. (modificat de mine)

 

Vezi specificatii:

ex. "CompactFlash Type II slot, Microdrive compatible 32-bit FAT support" adicatelea merg folosite amandoua, nu ca sunt aceeasi branza.

 

Later edit

Fiindca a inceput razboiul, hai intai sa studiem cu totii terenul. Deci sistemele CF <> de HDD, tocmai ca nu au piese in miscare (cum spuse viperu'), iar sistemul de stocare a datelor este de tip flash memory, nu clasic ca la HDD. Dar mai bine vedeti va rog cateva detalii

Si pana la urma, ca de obicei, adevarul e la mijloc

Edited January 30, 2006 by Moshu

[alx]

CompactFlash Type II miniature rotating disk drive. Next came the 512MB Microdrive and then the 1GB Microdrive. The 340MB Microdrive proved to be somewhat problematic and was dropped from production and replaced by the 512MB Microdrive. At the end of December 2002 Hitachi bought IBM's disk drive business and formed a new Hitachi Global Storage Technologies company. In addition to the desktop and laptop hard drives, Hitachi will also be producing the popular 1-inch Microdrive. Hitachi Global Storage said that it planned to produce a Microdrive with 4 gigabytes of storage. At that time the largest Microdrive that IBM made only held 1 gigabyte of data. The CompactFlash Type II form factor Microdrive is extremely popular in high resolution digital cameras, PDAs and MP3 players.

 

Do I need to say more?

[Moshu]

Cred ca vezi ca am modificat cate ceva. Nu cred ca trebuie sa ne "batem" acum. Ma scuzi de intarziere, dar CF repet, nu are piese in miscare si foloseste memoria de tip flash (de unde si numele). Microdrive, stim amandoi. Vezi si linkul meu te rog. Si daca n-am inteles eu bine,

 

"CompactFlash storage products are solid state, meaning they contain no moving parts, and provide users with much greater protection of their data than conventional magnetic disk drives. They are five to ten times more rugged and reliable than disk drives including those found in PC Card Type III products. CF cards consume only five percent of the power required by small disk drives.

 

CompactFlash cards support both 3.3V and 5V operation and can be interchanged between 3.3V and 5V systems. This means that any CF card can operate at either voltage. Other small form factor flash cards may be available to operate at 3.3V or 5V, but any single card can operate at only one of the voltages.

 

CF+ data storage cards are also available using magnetic disk (Microdrive). "

 

Do I need to say more?

Edited January 30, 2006 by Moshu

[alx]

The only difference between CF Type I and CF Type II cards is the card thickness. CF Type I is 3.3 mm thick and CF Type II cards are 5mm thick. A CF Type I card will operate in a CF Type I or CF Type II slot. A CF Type II card will only fit in a CF Type II slot. The electrical interfaces are identical. CompactFlash is available in both CF Type I and CF Type II cards, though predominantly in CF Type I cards. The Microdrive is a CF Type II card. Most CF I/O cards are CF Type I, but there are some CF Type II I/O cards.

 

extras de pe www.compactflash.org

 

recapitulare:

tip 1: Flash card (fara piese in miscare): Compact Flash 1, SD, MMC, Memory Stick, etc

tip 2: Mini hard drive (CU piese in miscare): Compact Flash II a.k.a Microdrive. Este unul si acelasi lucru denumit in functie de cheful fabricantului. Mai nou, se numesc numai Microdrive.

[Moshu]

Ok, de asta ce zici? Linkul ti l-am dat si eu mai sus.

 

CF+ I/O cards include modems, Ethernet, 802.11b WiFi, serial, Bluetooth wireless, digital phone cards, USB, laser scanners, VGA, etc

 

Deci inclusiv HDD... Asta iti spuneam.

[VIPER]

OK. Hai sa revenim la aparate. Cu multumirile de rigoare lui Mike.Omega, va prezint un site plin de accesorii (si mai ales lentile!) pentru diverse aparate foto!

 

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/egindex.htm

 

Si cateva exemple pentru cateva camere care sunt pe la forumisti:

 

- Fuji 5500: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/s5600/index.htm

- Panasonic FZ30: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/fz30/index.htm

- Panasonic FZ20: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/fz10/index.htm

- Canon S2IS: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/S2is/index.htm

- Canon S1IS, S70, S60, A520, A510, A80, A75: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/egindex.htm

- Nikon 5700, 8700: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/egnikon5700.htm

- Sony F828: http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/digital/f828/index.htm

[mike.omega]

Site nerecomandat iubitorilor de accesorii foto si cardiacilor )

Pacat ca n-am fonduri ca mi-ar place si mie 2 exetensii(wide si tele) pt FZ30

[Moshu]

Promit ca e ultima... E pacat sa se lase cu confuzii indiferent de ce parte. Citatul de mai jos e luat de pe sit-ul lui SanDisk, aia care au inventat CF-ul, si au facut-o tocmai in opozitie cu HDD: rezistenta la socuri, nu are piese in miscare deci consumul este infim, si asa cum puteti sa cititi au in vedere inlocuirea HDD de pe PC-uri cu device-uri de tip flash in viitor (cine stie?).

 

"The new cards double the current maximum flash storage capacities of these form factors. The highest capacities for industrial CF cards, which are the more popular Type I form factors, are increased from 2GB to 4GB (industrial grade) and from 4GB to 8GB (standard grade). Likewise, the PC Cards, which are Type II form factors and are based on state-of-the-art 90nm (nanometer) NAND flash technology, will go from 4GB to 8GB for industrial grade and from 8GB to 16GB for standard grade. The cards are expected to be available starting in December. Pricing is being determined and will vary from region to region."

 

Si altele daca mai vreti tot aici

 

Hitachi a creat un HDD miniatural care poate fi citit de un adaptor sau o intrare CF II /I/O (Input/Output). Poate zice si asta ceva:

 

"The CompactFlash PC Card adapter provides access to CompactFlash Type I and Type II and Hitachi / IBM Microdrive memory cards on a Laptop or any other device equipped with a PC Card (PCMCIA) slot without any driver."

 

Eu am inchis subiectul.

 

@mike> bine ai revenit printre canikonisti. Sper ca nu esti suparat. Merci de linkuri. As vrea eu cate ceva, da costa cat aparatu'.

Edited January 30, 2006 by Moshu

[mr_]

Spuneti-mi si mie, cine se pricepe... Asta e buna de ceva?

http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00033102.html

Am vazut intr-o revista un versus intre camere si iesise onorabil, comparabila cu unele de 3 ori mai scumpe. Cica are zgomot redus, declansare ultrarapida, sensibilitate la lumina super...

[masterbobs]

Eu zic ca depinde doar de ce vrei sa faci cu ea.

Altfel la categoria probleme mari ar fi doar:

Shutter Lag and Recycling Times

[mr_]

Stii vre-un site unde sa pot afla valorile? Ca sa pot sa fac o comparatie, pentru ca nu ma pricep foarte tare si habar n-am care-s bune si care-s dezastruoase

[masterbobs]

Uite aici...

[mr_]

Multumesc >-

Pai nu-i chiar asa tragic, acolo pare sa fie printre cele bune. Mai ales pentru un amator

[sebip]

te poate ajuta si http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp

[mike.omega]

Satori are 5500 deci ar trebui sa ne spuna ce si cum despre Fuji

Partea proasta la aparatul lui si nu vad unde au remediat la 5600 este ca la 10x optic nu ai stabilizator sau cel putin n-am observat eu sa scrie despre asta

 

Pe langa asta, are ca suport de memorie carduri xD care sunt ceva mai scumpicele decat CF-urile sau SD-urile

Edited February 2, 2006 by mike.omega

[Moshu]

La ce pret? Si asta e important. Intr-adevar nu scrie nimic despre IS, ceea ce la telefoto e cam naspa. Pacat, pentru ca 10x optic suna bine.

Edited February 2, 2006 by Moshu

[masterbobs]

Ca orice "masina" are si parti bune si parti rele. Partea de marketing...bleahh...

Aici o sa vedeti ce s-a mai schimbat...

[Moshu]

Asa e master, dar daca costa 600 euroi e una si daca e in jur de 250-300 i-as zice ia-l si nu mai sta pe ganduri. Chiar daca n-are stabilizare. Parca eu cand foloseam pe timpuri teleobiectivele ale de jde kile si de juma de metru, pe SLR clasic aveam pe mama stabilizatorului, ca nici nu stiam ce-i aia acum 30 de ani.

 

Later

Acu' am ca-s jmeker cu CANON!

Edited February 2, 2006 by Moshu

[sebip]

daca esti fun fuji si sa rezolvi problema cardurilor poti folosi un Fujifilm FinePix S9000 Z ...merge cu carduri xD Picture Card + Compact Flash Type I or II

[mr_]

E 334€ cu tot cu transport.

In plus, am mai cumparat de la astia si sunt super ok, sunt client vechi la ei. N-am avut probleme nici cu garantia, nici cu livrarea, au fost de acord sa-mi schimbe o memorie care nu-mi mergea cu o placa video, etc. Ultima oara am cumparat doua placi de retea wireless si mi le-au livrat in 24 ore.

Edited February 2, 2006 by mr_

[sebip]

de la un anumit pret iesi bine daca ai pe cineva care sa le cumpere din state sau canada...

[Moshu]

Zi bre @mr cat costa? Ca vad ca abia a aparut pe piata in toamna 2005.

 

Later

Da ce iute esti...

Edited February 2, 2006 by Moshu

[mr_]

Pai scria si pe link pretul

Ideea e sa vad si cat costa in magazin. Teoretic, as putea recupera TVA-ul daca o iau inaintea unui drum in Romania...

[Satori]

Eu o recomand. Este perfecta pentru ceea ce inteleg eu prin 'amator si entuziast in domeniu', scopul ei declarat.

 

xD sunt scumpe dar nici chiar intr-atat incat sa nu cumperi camera din cauza lor.

[VIPER]

Preturi la carduri xD: http://www.cardurimemorie.ro/index.php?cPa...e43cf6e11d5eaa0

 

Deci un 512MB costa cam cat dau eu pe un MS Pro de 512. Iar la 3 sute si ceva de euro, ar cam merita...