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Am un Cielo 1995 Corea cutie automata si as vrea sa ii pun o cutie manuala. E posibil acest lucru? In lei cam ce ar insemna asta? Recomandati-mi un baiat care sa se priceapa la artificii de genul asta. Mie mi se pare complicat de greu la cat ma pricep eu la masini. :lavolan: Despre lipirea contactului ide la degivrare luneta stie cineva ceva?

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In Craiova acum am vorbit cu cineva de la un service si mi-a spus ca manopera la ei e 250 RON.

 

Leitar edit: am mai vorbit cu cineva care aduce masini din Germania si mi-a spus ca toate piesele care-ti trebuie tie ti le da la 10 milioane si daca vrei ti le si monteaza intr-o zi cu 2 milioane. Din cate mi-a spus ai nevoie de destule piese pt schimbarea asta, pe langa cutia manuala: timonerie, schimbatorul de viteze, plasticele interioare, pedalier, planetare, cilindru ambreiaj.

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:o fftopic:

oare la matiz nu as putea pune o cutie automata ? :D

 

 

 

:o fftopic: Lenesuleeeeeeeee ... dupa ce ca e Matiz, mai vrei si cutie automata :tongue:

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:osanale: Salutare dinou

dat fiind faptul ca voi avea de facut in curind o calatorie mai lunga m-am gindit ca ar fi bine sa schimb cutia mea automata(espero 1996) cu una manuala.Fac aceasta operatiune deoarece nu as vrea sa am surpriza neplacuta ca la acel drum lung sa ramin fara cutie daca se strica asta...Am suspiciuni deoarece am impresia ca dupa ce pornesc de pe loc nu schimba in prima viteza asa cum ar trebui...adika ezita si schimba cam la 3 mii de ture cu un sunet ciudat ca de fiare care se lovesc intre ele.asta face doar la schimbarea primei viteze.Uleiul in cutie lam schimbat deci...Pe aceasta cale rog ajutorul vostru la experiente similare in operatiunea "cutia".preturi...etc.

Iar pt userul nicubarbu (pe privat fara nici un fel de reclama ) sa ma anununte pe privat de pretul pieselor incepind de la plastice pina la pedale tot ce trebuie pt transformare

multumesc

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Salut , vreau si eu sa stiu preturi si tot ce trebuie pentru conversie.

Multumesc!

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M-am interesat si eu de curiozitate si se pare ca iesi mai bine daca pui tot o automata(buna).

Trebuie sa schimbi multe piese : planetare , ambreiaj , CALCULATOR ...etc.

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Calculatorul la automate , are alt cod decat cel de la manuale.

Convingerea mi-a fost intarita si de Nicu Barbu care mi-a zis ca trebuie schimbat si calculatorul.

Dar daca stau bine sa ma gandesc s-ar putea ca cel de pe automate sa aiba doar cateva functii in plus si pot fi anulate.

E cineva pe aici care a facut conversia?

Sa ne lumineze si pe noi! :scarpin:

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Iata ce am gasit , sursa :daewootech

 

As some of you may know, I had a problem with the VGIS being permanently on in my new manual Lanos. Well, I was advised to swap the ECUs in my automatic Lanos and manual Lanos to see if that is the problem. Well, last night, I did just that. I'm pleased to say that it really is the ECU that is causing the fault with the VGIS system, and the automatic ECU makes the manual car run great, better than the manual ECU ever did. Also, it has been said that a automatic ECU will work flawlessly with a manual car, but not the other way around. Well here are the factoids I have found regarding this information.

 

Manual to Automatic Computer Swap:

Contrary to popular belief, the manual computer did work in the automatic car. But work well? No. To begin with, (as predicted), the transmission didn't function well, but it worked. When put into reverse, the tranny would slap into gear really hard, and when put into D4, it would smack really hard again. The PWR button was permanently on and could not be shut off, and the car would not cycle into the higher gears. To top it all off, the speedometer didn't work.

 

Automatic to Manual Computer Swap:

As was predicted, the automatic computer worked relatively well in the manual car. The only problem was that upon startup, the RPM would spike to above 2000 RPM, stay there for a few seconds longer than usual, and then go down to normal idle. The CEL came on instantly and stayed on, and every time you'd get to a higher RPM, it would start blinking (Almost like a shift light, LOL). However, the VGIS worked flawlessly and as mentioned before, the car ran perfectly. And, similar to the other swap, the speedometer didn't work.

 

Bottom Line:

It seems that the automatic and manual cars get their speedo signal from different sources that are not interchangeable. Also, the automatic tranny throws a CEL because I guess it can't register that there is a transmission attached to the car. The manual ECU makes the auto run like hell and is really not recommended. So, in conclusion, if you feel that you need to swap out your computers, I suggest that you get a computer from the same transmission car so you don't run into any of these problems.

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Nu are legatura cu subiectul acesta unde se vorbeste de cielo.

E vorba de alt tip de masina cu motorizare diferita si alt tip de ecm.

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Pai , si pana la urma trebuie schimbat sau nu?

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Costa in jur de 100 lei unul sh deci nu vad o mare problema daca tot vrei sa faci conversia.

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Sunt mai hotarat decat niciodata. Am sa fac trecerea la cutie manuala. Costurile de reparatii pentru cutia hidramata depasesc cu mult asteptarile. Astept orice informatie utila in ceea ce priveste preturi, locatii samd la urmatoarele repere :

- cutie viteza cielo manuala SH;

- Planetare;

- Timonerie;

- Pedalier (set pedale);

- Kit ambreaj;

Cine mai stie de ce este nevoie poate sa imi scrie.

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-Pompa de ambreiaj + paharul lichidului de frana

-Conducta de presiune

-Cilindru de ambreiaj

-ECM

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Ce ai facut pina la urma si cit a costat pt k ma bate si pe mine un gind sa o schimb...

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La orice masina se poate schijmba manuala cu automata si invers. In ambele cazuri e mai mare daraua decat ocaua + ca la o eventuala vanzare valoarea masinii va scadea dramatic nimeni neavand incredere in modificarile facute. Parerea mea !

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Gresita parerea ta.Sau dupa calculul tau o masina cu cutie automata este mai scumpa decit una cu cutie manuala ? :) )

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Sal am si eu o intrebare pt cine se pricepe...cutia mea sa stricat si am gasit alta la dezmembrari dar este o cutie de pe un cielo nexia care are 4 trepte (123D in loc de 12D cum este a mea)....intrebare ...ce are diferit in afara de maneta...va trebui sa mai schimb ceva ,timonerie,oare se potriveste pe motor ,are aceeasi marime :-? ..??????(cei de la magazin au spus ca este la fel si nu trebui se mai schimb nimic bine inteles ei sunt interesati sa o vinda ce ar putea sa spuna..!!)astept un raspuns !!!!

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Nu cred sa se potriveasca.Cutia in 4 trepte a fost pe nexia motor 1,8l.

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Sau 1,5 16 valve. ;)

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maryx14 cere codul exact al cutiei sa vedem daca este compatibila sau nu.

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nu este nici o diferenta intre cutiile de 3 si 4 trepte automate

am vazut cutie automata pe cielo 95 cu motor 1.5 ohc

 

bine diferenta este o viteza ceva mai mare la cele de 4 trepte si un consum usor scazut

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Nu zau! Si daca ai vazut, inseamna ca nu e nici o diferenta intre cutii?

Ai vazut cutie automata in 4 trepte pe 1,5 sohc?

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