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Daewoosh Lanos Sport Turbo (C20LET/F28)

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mr_G   

mr_G
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Can somebody, please, tell moderator to change name of my subject to:

 

"Daewoosh Lanos Sport Turbo (C20LET/F28)"

 

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VAXXi   

VAXXi
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Very subtle! :P how does it run with all that power, does the chassis cope with the load ?

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mr_G   

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Very subtle! :P how does it run with all that power, does the chassis cope with the load ?

 

 

Yes.. There are no problems... However, it requires front lower tie bar for strong starts... Without it, it is impossible to start hard strait...

 

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I was on MAHA dyno brake to have initial values before tuning business. :D It was a little below 200BHP (160WHP) and about 256Nm on 0.4bar. It didn't want to go to 0.6bar witch is stock value... I have found out later that first gear switch was wrong...

 

On MAHA Dyno brake

 

So this is the moment for our memories...

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My goal is 1bar with 1.3bar overboost and SA VEMS with about 300BHP and 450Nm... So let the games begin...

 

I have bought new distribution, water pump, and inlet cam...

 

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Fuel Pressure Regulator...

 

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Automotive Racing Products screws...

 

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Had some work to do... Changed distribution, inlet cam, water pump, ARP screws, etc...

 

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Ordered a new InterCooler from US... :D Here is compare my new vs stock C20LET IC... :lol:

 

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Catch of the week! It's a big fish! :D

 

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Then I get impulsgeber (VSS) from DE, it's a "AD", 10 impulses per rotation.. Now it shows speed almost correctly, but I think it still shows a little less then the speed.. I will compare it to the GPS to be sure...

 

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And then after a whole day of hard labor, the big fish IC is on the car... It's 29x6x5'' or 75x15x13cm, with 3'' (76mm) pipes...

 

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Now I have to e-manage the engine and release the beast! :D Maybe I would get some 440cc injectors... :D And fix the hood, and the bumper (last winters crash :lol: )

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I have test the car now with big IC, and it goes over 6100rpm in 6th gear... Calculating with tire size 195/45-R16 it's over 245km/h... Speedo lies about 10% and says 225km/h... I use 10impuls impulsgeber and should use 11impuls one, witch doesn't exist...

 

I will check the speed with GPS and found out exactly how much it lies... It goes over 6100rpm in 6th gear, but I don't like to keep it in the boost for a long time.. It goes around 15s from 100km/h to 200km/h... That is nice for stock boost... When I boost it up to 1bar, I will do the tests again.. :D

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Dj_Dark   

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This is insane :) . You take this to another level. Good job, i have a million question for you and, because i don't know were to start, i resume to this: Great job but be careful.

 

PS. Great movie.

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VEMS is a Versatile Engine Management System... www.vems.hu

 

I did the wiring for the VEMS. Still have to solder VEMS board to the motronic connector... :)

 

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My friend Damir Muha, did the first configuration and the engine started... Alto the knock and hall sensor aren't configured, and he did only preliminary mapping with retarded spark, and the injectors are too small, on 0.7bar the car is like the beast on steroids... :)

 

In the second gear on good road when rpm reaches 4500rpm, it looses traction. In the third gear it's hard to control as it swings on the road as wheels are getting traction...

 

It pulls harder above 6000rpm, and pulls hard all 6 gears... Stock ECU and this one, alto the boost is only uprated from 0.6bar to 0.7bar, and with no overboost (stock had 0.8bar overboost) difference is big..

 

Now I need bigger injectors, and must learn a lot about configuring VEMS to enable LPG (bifuel staged support and knock sensor)...

 

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andreib   

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You know the pirelii motto: ,,power is nothing without control". Over 200bhp on a front wheel drive car is useful (if you can call it so) just on a strait line, the front wheels just can't cope with more power than that and i don't think the lanos body can also...

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mr_G   

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You know the pirelii motto: ,,power is nothing without control". Over 200bhp on a front wheel drive car is useful (if you can call it so) just on a strait line, the front wheels just can't cope with more power than that and i don't think the lanos body can also...

 

400m time is much better... Of course it can coupe with 300HP. But the point is to limit power in first, second, and third gear... That little thingy is called TC (traction control), and I will be working on it, as soon as I get LPG working and bigger injectors... :)

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andreib   

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Ok, so you are going for a LPG conversion? A sequential injection system or a mixer based system? Why do you need the larger injectors if you are going for a LPG conversion?

 

Traction control or no traction control you still have too much power going to just the front wheels. On a track (corners, not just a straight line) that would be kind of useless :( .

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mr_G   

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Ok, so you are going for a LPG conversion? A sequential injection system or a mixer based system? Why do you need the larger injectors if you are going for a LPG conversion?

 

Traction control or no traction control you still have too much power going to just the front wheels. On a track (corners, not just a straight line) that would be kind of useless :( .

 

 

I allready have LPG sequential injection, but I removed all the wiring and electronics for LPG... VEMS will drive LPG also... LPG cannot supply more than 45HP per cylinder... So LPG is for cooking and slow driving... :) 300cc fuel (gasoline) injectors have limit of about 250HP... I have reach that limit, so I will buy 1000cc injectors just to be sure...

 

Cornering and track doesn't interest me. It's dangerous and you can kill yourself or your car in a second. Not to say that big engine torque in corners will brake the chasy and gearbox anyway... So, no thank you. Just the strait line... :D

 

And you can use all the 300HP on FWD on the strait line... Well it is hard, because you drive like slalom on strait line, but it's fun... And what a rush... :) :drinkers: :lavolan:

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andreib   

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I think you can get more than 45bhp/cylinder out of the LPG system but you need a bigger reducer (or even 2 reducers) and bigger nozles. But if you use it just for cruising around i don't think you need to bother with it that much.

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I think you can get more than 45bhp/cylinder out of the LPG system but you need a bigger reducer (or even 2 reducers) and bigger nozles. But if you use it just for cruising around i don't think you need to bother with it that much.

 

There are no bigger injectors for LPG and also bigger reducers... I could put 2 reducers with 8 LPG injectors.. But why bother with it... :)

 

 

I'm using biggest MED injectors and biggest landi renzo reducer... 4 injectors and I could get no more then 180HP on LPG...

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mr_G   

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The new audi s3 with miltec exhaust was looking at my rear end yesterday... :D

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Last Friday I have smoked the new Audi S3 (with miltek exhaust)...

 

Last Saturday I have installed new big injectors (630cc). And yesterday I have fried the 3rd piston or piston rings... :lol:

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Scoop   

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Maybe a recalculation of all engine internals is in order to prevent further distruction :P

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mr_G   

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S3 vs M3 vs Lanos ST

 

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On the first run, start from zero, S3 (4x4) just jumps ahead about 2 car sizes... Lanos ST catches it and pass by it in the 4th gear (just before 1/4 mile mark)... M3 is left behind... On the second run, rolling start, Lanos ST takes advantage at leaves S3 and M3 behind..

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Enjoy... I know I will... :)

Garret T3 trim60, 0.63A/R ex, 0.42A/R inlet, Toyosport manifold, external wastegate, 3'' downpipe... :)

 

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Head valve works...

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Headworks...

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Better than new...

Then I have ordered this...

 

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2x12'' 1500cfm each at 2200rpm.. 2'' thick... :)

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VAXXi   

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That's impressive! even more, as you're doing it in the parking lot :)

 

Any chances of a dyno test afterwards ?

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mr_G   

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That's impressive! even more, as you're doing it in the parking lot :)

 

Any chances of a dyno test afterwards ?

 

After thrall remaping on dyno and road... I think that it would output 350HP on the crank at 1.6bar (260kPa) with this turbo..

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VAXXi   

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Damn, that's a lot of power. You'll modify the gearbox and clutch also, I hope ? :)

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mr_G   

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Just clutch kit...

 

The F28-FWD gearbox can stand up to 1000HP... But I was thinking about rebuilding gearbox...

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